From: Louise<malenfant@powersurfr.com>
To: donna laframboise<dlaframboise@nationalpost.com>
Subject: Fw: A Message to Ecmas, Merge and GIEF
Date: Thu,22 Feb 2001 19:25:47 -0400 [See highlighted material 4 pages below]
> > >Hey Donna,
I put this chain in order for you, instead of you havingto start from the
bottom. The Reporteditor Link Byfield wrote a recent excellent article on
pedophile normalization, and since he is the chiefeditor, i think he would
be interested in Ferrel's book, and his favorite lawyer,as well. I don't
plan on doing anything though until after the provincial
> > >
> > > At 03:23 AM 2/14/01 -0600, Louise wrote:
> > > >A Message to Ecmas, Merge and Geif,from Parents Helping Parents
> > > >February 13, 2001
[Shehere omits her original recipient list, which included me; I replied to thesame list--see below.--FC]
> > >>=========================================
> > > >
> > > >Once again, today, I was reminded ofthe fact that my former
employer,
> > > Ferrel Christensen, is finding anyopportunity to disparage me since
our
> > > total disassociation of November,2000. I am well aware of Mr.
> > > Christensen's activities as I am toldabout them on a regular basis.
> And
> > > while it is no secret that we despise eachother, I have for three
> months
> > > ignored these provocations in the hopethat Mr. Christensen would
> > > eventually cease his behaviour in anatural way as most of us would
do.
> > > Unfortunately, I have come to theconclusion that Mr. Christensen is
not
> > > like ordinairy folk, and is unable to letgo of his rage.
> > > >
> > > >I therefore wish to state for therecord that I view an attack upon
my
> > > reputation and my character as nodifferent then a physical attack
upon
> my
> > > person. I further wish to advise, in all seriousness, that should
this
> > > libelous behaviour continue, I shall beleft with no choice but to
bring
> > > our dispute to full public light.
formal
> > > complaint to the Human Rights Commissionconcerning Mr. Christensen's
> > > behaviour as an employer, who invited mehere under the false pretense
> > that
> > > he represented a legitimate organizationrun by a board of directors.
> > > Though this has not been filed, it will beif this behaviour does not
> > cease
> > > and desist immediately.
> family
> > > rights organizations that I am no longerprepared to turn the other
> cheek,
> > > and will no longer abide any aspersions tomy reputation. With all
due
> > > respect to the collective organizationshere, Parents Helping Parents
> has
> > > every right to be very proud of the workand the reputation we have
> > > developed over nearly a decade of dedicationto gender equality issues
> in
> > > family law.
with
> > > Ferrel Christensen as a sign of weakness,for the day is over when I
> > accept
> > > his behavior without responding to it.
> > > >
> > > >PHP will be taking a moratorium on ouractivities for at least a
month,
> > to
> > > reflect on this disturbing situation andcome to a decision regarding
> our
> > > next course of action.
> > indicating
> > > that Ferrel Christensen is continuing withhis adolescent activities,
I
> > > will not hesitate to respond in kind andwith the full force of my own
> > > research on his own dubious history.
> > > withstands that kind of scrutiny.
> > > >
> > > >Louise Malenfant
> > > >Family Advocate
> > > >Parents Helping Parents, Edmonton
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ferrel Christensen"<ferrel.christensen@ualberta.ca>
> > To: "Louise"<malenfant@powersurfr.com>; "ron marshall"
<rsmdad@home.com>;
> > "Elsie Cable"<rcable@telusplanet.net>; "bobby bouvier"
> > <bobbouvier@netzero.net>; "Mike LaBerge" <ecmas@telusplanet.net>;
"Abdula
> > Mahamad" <amahamad@ecn.ab.ca>;"shannon Stachnik" <ampsjs@home.com>;
> > [the aunt and her email address]; "BrianSt. Germaine"
> > <stgermai@telusplanet.net>; [Source A'semail address] ; [the girlfriend
> > and her email address]; "S.A. Green"<greest@bmi.net>; "Gerald
Gauthier"
> > <ggauthier@interlink.net>
> > Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 1:39 PM
> > Subject: Re: A Message to Ecmas, Merge and GIEF
> >
> >DONNA, this is Ferrel's response to my originalmessage below:
> > > I believe the list of names to whichLouise sent her message reveals
> > pretty
> > > well which of us is seeking opportunity todisparage the other. Those
I
> > > have told about the serious conflictbetween her and me have been on a
> > > need-to-know basis. Indeed, I had to do soin the first place mostly
to
> > > tell my side of the story to certainindividuals she had already made
> > > allegations to. And I have consistentlydescribed the good I see in
her
> > > behavior with the bad--truth is anabsolute defence.
> > >
> > > I apologise to those receiving thismessage for the further intrusion,
> and
> > > trust that henceforth neither of us willfeel a need to bother them
with
> > > such messages.
> > >
> > > FC
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Louise [mailto:malenfant@powersurfr.com]
> > Sent: February 15, 2001 11:17 AM
> > To: ron marshall; Elsie Cable; bobby bouvier;Mike La Berge; Abdula
> > Mahamad; shannon Stachnik; [the aunt]; BrianSt. Germaine;
> > [Source A's email]; [the girlfriend]; S.A.Green; Gerald Gauthier;
> > Ferrel Christensen
> > Subject: Re: A Message to Ecmas, Merge and GIEF
> >
> >
> > I am not sure what the list of names revealsabout anything. While most
> of
> > the names are of merge, ecmas and gief members,I consult with both Stan
> and
> > Gerald on a regular basis about nearly allissues relating to gender
> > equality, because I admire them and respecttheir judgement and for no
> other
> > reason. I certainly don't plan on asking Ferrel's permission for the
> people
> > I do and do not communicate with.
> >
> > It is no secret that Ferrel has been castingaspersions in a general way
> > about my "reputation", with nothingsubstantial or specific, but it
> appears
> > that he really hates it when he is confrontedon it, as I have chosen to
> do
> > at this time. I will no longer stand idly by and watch the likes of
> Ferrel
> > Christensen attack a reputation that belongs tome alone, something that
I
> > have worked to achieve for nearly a decadededicated to establishing
> gender
> > equality in my life time.
> >
> > As for Ferrel's admonition that neither of uscommunicate with anyone
> again
> > on this issue, I don't take directions fromFerrel, and I will talk
about
> > what I want with whomever I want unless theythemselves tell me
otherwise.
> > My position is on the record -
> > desist his regular denunciation of my characterand my work, I will take
> > this dispute public and make formal complaintto the human rights
> > commission. His methods only work in an environment of secrecy and fear
> of
> > confrontation, and I will not conspire to makeit easy for him to harm
my
> > reputation.
> >
> > Louise Malenfant
> > Family Advocate
> > Parents Helping Parents, Edmonton
> >
----- Original Message -----
From: "Louise" <malenfant@powersurfr.com>
To: <bobbouvier@netzero.net>
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: A Message to Ecmas, Merge and GIEF
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robert G.J. Bouvier" <bouvier@willowglen.ca>
> To: "Louise"<malenfant@powersurfr.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 12:08 PM
> Subject: RE: A Message to Ecmas, Merge and GIEF
>
>
> > Louise,
> >
> > Please do not e-mail me with details of theconflict between yourself
and
> > Ferrel. There are things that I like about both of you and I don't want
> to
> > be put in the middle.
being
> > brought into this.
> not
> > make a major stink about things to the mediaexposing this or that. The
> > last thing we need is publicly feuding membersof our movement with
public
> > mudslinging. Our rag-tag group cannot afford a bunch of bad publicity.
> ---->
>Louise: [N.B.: Typing 'Louise:' is Louise Malenfant's indicator that her ownwords follow.]
> If you can't afford bad publicity, you should perhaps readFerrel's book
>Pornography: the other side. If histhinking ever became public knowledge,
>as I believe it should for public safety reasons, your reputation would be
>destroyed anyway. It amazes me that ithasn't already come out, given the
>many media enemies Ferrel has. Add tothis the fact that the main resource
>provided to newcomers is a disbarred lawyer who had sex with a teenager,
>along with a man who feels taboos against sex with children and child
>pornography should be eliminated, and you have yourself a first class
>scandal on your hands. [In discovery, the reporter said she didn't recall reading this
> ecmas has a lot of secrets to keep as a result. Ithas been my experience
> that the falsely accused want nothing to do withpeople who have "liberal"
> thoughts about child sexual abuse, yet that isexactly what they get when
> they go to a support group meeting.
> prefer to sweep these issues under the rug, andwonder how long you will
be
> able to do so successfully.
man
> is attempting to impugn my reputation, and I amsupposed to sit idlely by
> and allow it to happen without any response.
> think of me, I feel a person responsibility to thepeople experiencing the
> pain of family law, and find it difficult to ignorethese issues. While
it
> would perhaps be the easier route to stick my headin the sand and ignore
it
> like everyone else in Edmonton does, it is only aquestion of time before
> someone else discovers what you are doing.
>
> >Bob: There are too many people that have workedtoo hard for too many
years.
> It
> > has been hard work to gain the credibility thegood members of ECMAS
(and
> > MERGE) have built up and if this is destroyed(and it won't take too
> much),
> > then the people we are trying to help will loseout the most. Please
note
> > that Ferrel has left me out of things and hasnot discussed the problems
> > between the two of you.
> but
> > I have previously heard some brief details ofthe conflict from both of
> you.
> > As I am not intimately involved with the issuesI really don't want to
> take
> > sides one way or the other.
> > want to get involved.
> the
> > bickering and threats would stop.
agreement
> to
> > keep away from each other and not talk abouteach other.
>
>Louise: I have made multiple efforts to do so, to noavail. I have not
attended any
> ecmas meeting or support meeting for three months,but get calls every
week
> about the disparaging comments he makes when my namecomes up. I am a
paid
> up member of ecmas, but am being asked to avoid anymeetings where Ferrel
> may be in attendance, and I have tried to accomodatethat request.
> Bob:> both of you would only address the peoplethat are directly involved
with
> > the dispute and please do not involve a bunchof other people.
> Louise:This is rather difficult to do as I have noidea what forums Ferrel
has
> chosen to discredit me.
and
> I refuse to ignore it any longer.
>Bob: I would hope
> > that both of you try to diffuse the issuerather than step things up.
>
> Louise:If you are asking me to ignore the problem,that is not going to
happen.
> >
> > Regards,
>
> Same to you, Louise
> > ------------------------------------------
> > Robert G.J. Bouvier
> > Tel: +1 (780) 468-6328
> > bobbouvier@netzero.net
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