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From: Ferrel Christensen <>

Subject: Re: [MESA] Fwd: FYI


Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 12:24:52 -0600

[This note to a Calgary group (after sending them my press release of April 3) is cited in the Post counter-suit. It appears elsewhere on this website embedded in an e-mail Ms. Malenfant forwarded to the reporter.]

At 11:48 PM 4/9/01 -0600, Doug Pierozinski wrote:


>>   >I don't agree with your approach and judgement.  The

>>   > Mr. Adams scenario  is yet another example.  How is it a good thing

to have  Donna

>>   > Laframboise writing negative articles about the Edmonton fathers'

rights members?  As far

>>   > as I am aware she has been nothing, but good for the fathers'/men's



>>   Then you didn't understand the item I sent to the MESA list; prehaps you

>>   could read it again to see what she has been doing. Yes, she has done

>>   great work for our movement. But some of us have found out the hard way

>>   that she has a nasty dark side. If your mind is open to being changed by

>>   new information, I could send more of the evidence and the story.


>My mind is always open Ferrel.  Do send your evidence regarding Donna dark



On second thought, since possible legal action is still pending, I will

delay detailing the evidence on this list--but every fact I presented in

the press release concerning her behavior can be proven by witnesses and

documents. For now, will you at least acknowledge that such behavior, IF

engaged in by her or anyone else, would be contemptible?


What I can do for now is present more detail than I did in the press

release about why  Adams came to get on the Board of ECMAS. To repeat,

he never planned in advance to do so--it was a spur-of-the-moment decision

made in the attempt to stop great harm to the group.


A certain pair of individuals having some affiliation with ECMAS--but not

regular active members--who have long-standing personal conflicts with

regulars in ECMAS decided to make an attempt to grab power at the Annual

General Meeting.  This was not an open and above-board announcement of

attempting to change things, however; it was a sneaking-around scumbag

attempt. It involved gathering together a couple of other non-regular

members, a few non-members who had attended some support-group meetings

(hundreds have attended such meetings, but were not notified of the AGM by

the leaders of ECMAS because such attendance is not activity in ECMAS

itself), and a few persons who had never had any prior contact with ECMAS.

The pair told these other individuals libelous lies and then brought them

to the meeting to vote in a bloc.


Some advance word of the conspiracy having leaked out, the regulars were

concerned about just what might be attempted. It became obvious that they

didn't have enough votes to prevent re-election of the existing president.

But to  it appeared that they were going to get their person in as

vice-president if no one else agreed to run.

In fact, things were not as they appeared to him. But in the middle of

final call for candidates and imminent elections, there was no opportunity

for him to discuss such things with others concerned about the conspiracy,

so in desperation he did the only thing he could think of--stand for

election himself. The motives of those who then voted for him--I was not

one of them--were largely the same as his own.


Since at least one person writing to this list opines that  Adams

should have no involvement with a men's/fathers' group at all, let alone

Board membership, let me reiterate ECMAS' position. To give adequate

help to the hundreds coming for legal information, it is imperative to have

someone with that knowledge. The alternative is to be unable to give it, or

worse: to allow them to be given uncorrected the sort of false information

which is common at support-group meetings. And in all ECMAS' years of work,

though it has gotten limited help from numerous lawyers, it has never until

now been able to get anyone to put in the hundreds of hours of volunteer

time which  has put in.                                                      [Back]


So, to all those who think  should be punished his whole life for

offenses he has already paid for, and all those who think victims of the

divorce system--and their children--should be denied the help he has been

giving, I repeat: you have no damned idea what you're saying.





MESA, the Men's Educational Support Association




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